I love the material on these. Stretchy, burly and not too hot. The pant length is just little short for me, but at 6'4" (34 wasit) I'm sort of used ot that. At least with the stretch the cuff doesn't go up to my knee when I bend it like on some pants. The "white" looking ones on the site are more of a light khaki color. I prefer the darker color in this case so I don't have to worry as much about getting them dirty. I think the hammer loop is kind of dumb and can get in the way on rare occasions, but nothing a pair of scissors won't take care of. Other than those two minor things, I love em!

the web site made the mushroom colored one look grey when really they are greenish in color and i am assuming that the ones that look white are really a tanish color. however other than the misleading color (really isnt all that important)these pants are great!

I love these pants for everything from my work day to getting out to the crag. I have scuffed them against rock many times and have no wear and tear showing. They fit really well under a harness and keep the same fit for multiple days of outdoor use. So good I bought two more pairs.

These are great pants. When I first put mine on, I thought the waist was a little big (I am a 31 and ordered 32s). I still wear a belt, but could probably get away without one. Since the waist is just big on me, the waist/crotch cut seems a little funny. I wear these often and will continue to until I need a new pair, maybe there will be 31's then..