Here's the deal. I've worked retail in a specialty ski shop for over a decade, in addition to being a ski instructor. Nearly every person that returns gloves citing they're not warm, has bought gloves that fit too tightly. For skiing and general winter use, warmth is top priority. If you need the dexterity to tie knots and handle rope, buy a thinner, purpose built mountaineering glove - OR has plenty. For general winter and skiing use, you need room in the glove. When you bend your hand, or grasp a ski pole, your knuckles shouldn't compress the insulation too much; if they do, the glove is too small.. OR, you need to increase your size run to maybe XXL and XXL gloves. I've had to turn away customers with gigantic paws who, though they can get the glove on, compress the insulation from inside, rendering it useless. Most gloves also miss the mark by using the same insulation in the palm as the back of the hand - not the Centurions. Nearly all synthetics will compress, pack out, and degrade over time. Fleece retains more of it's loft over frequent compressions, say, from gripping a ski pole. IF you're looking for an under-the-cuff glove, buy these. Just don't blame me if you find yourself taking them off on the lift ride up to let the sweat on your palms evaporate..