Impressed out of the box with the shell. They have a lot of features that are borrowed from the Alti mitts, the insulation in the mitt is nice and makes them pretty versatile. Big loops to pull on and off and hang up are nice. The liners are unsatisfactory. They fit poorly, especially around the thumbs, where they have gaps that won't close. The have nothing to keep them from sliding down your palm when opened. With a one piece mitt liner the Meteor mitts would be hands down 5 stars and an incredible value. I go 3 stars because I already have other liners to put in them. If I didn't I would not recommend them. The liners are trying to do too much and not doing any of it well. If you get these mitts plan on getting another liner or go with the High Camp mitts which appear to have a proper liner. Hopefully OR rethinks the liner on this otherwise nice piece of equipment.