These are great gloves! I bought them to wear for fall/spring hiking (especially useful with the little rain jackets for your hands!), but because they're warmer than I expected, I've also been using them as liner gloves under my ski mitts and they rock! So far the jackets are definitely waterproof, and the gloves themselves are snug and seem durable. It is a bit awkward to fit the jackets into the pocket on top, so I've been storing those separately instead of wearing them in the gloves. The only thing that would make these gloves better is if they were touch-screen compatible - would love to just make them my all the time gloves if that were the case since they are warm but breathable!