Bought for alpine skiing, Loved the articulation of the fingers. Well made. Nice materials. Fit well using OR's sizing chart. The only negative were, they aren't warm enough for 25 to 29 *F temps for skiing. They feel much thinner than your average ski gloves. To me, they aren't warm enough for your average, seasonal temps skiing. It seems like OR designed a great glove, but didn't insulate it enough. This glove with it's wool lining, would benefit from synthetic down insulation in the back of the glove, and a bit more of the wool insulation all the way around. Not sure what you were thinking about OR? Fail!