Use these almost everyday to deliver programs outside in forests! When we hit +30 degrees, the long pants weren't an issue at all. Thin enough to breathe in and so far they've withstood kneeling in sand and dirt for extended period of time. The waistband is a nice fit, not too loose but doesn't dig in anywhere. Might be the only pair of non-high waisted pants I've bought in a long time! Haven't really tested them out in significant rain, just a light drizzle that they kept me dry in! Appreciate the short option for my 5 foot 2 frame!