I had always thought the original Ferrosi were juuuuuust too short to be comfortable, so I was excited when they came out with long sizing and updated style. The sizing with OR has always vexed me, but I was optimistic that finally these would be right.... wrong! They are, in my opinion, WAY too small to be a 6. I am a size 6 in nearly everything I try on or purchase, and these were grossly too small. Even if they stretch, I would never feel comfortable wearing them in public, let alone being comfortable enough to work in them, which is what I need them for. The only upside is that they seem to be more stylish cut than the old Ferrosi pants, which I always thought were a bit lame looking, but got the job done. Will definitely be returning these, and unsure if I will purchase an 8.