These gloves are a HUGE disappointment and did not last through a one day outing. They cannot take any rough surfaces, wear or tear. I spent a day in the Cleveland National Forest hiking through manzanita bushes, scrub brush and scrambling over boulders. One day of use ended up literally shredding the palm material on the thumb and fingers. See the pictures. I have a lot of Outdoor Research jackets, gloves, pants and so on. I've climbed a fair number of mountains, I kayak, mountain bike, backpack and am a part timer in the USCG. I know what good quality is supposed to be and OR failed me on these gloves.
Jim in SoCal
Orange County, CA