Am v disappointed to have to write a bad review. These gloves look great, and when brand new, performed as expected, with great grip, fit and feeling - felt warm enough to climb ice in them down to about -5C no problem. However, these gloves DO NOT LAST. I've had two pairs, and neither made it through a two week ice trip. That is unacceptable, especially as one of those trips was to Tibet so no replacement possible. The issue is stiching between the leather and the material, it is weak and gives way. Absolutely beyond annoyed that the second pair did not only do the same thing, but in four fingers, not just one! I can't do this again. I've been a huge fan of OR gear in general for many years but this, in addition to terrible "international" service response leaves me very unhappy and seriously questioning future purchase decisions.