I love these gloves! Sounds like a crazy detail, but I have a hard time finding gloves that have the right finger lengths. Some fingers fit and others don't, kinda like other brands build thier gloves with the fingersvall the same length. That not the case with these. The fit of great, thier fluffy and comfortable and warm. I bought them for casual wear and driving. I wouldn't recommend them for skiing or or anything, I don't think that's what the designers were thinking when they made this glove. Great to have in the car and for cold but not extreme days.