The gloves are plenty warm for cold, dry conditions. I usually pack 2 pairs. One for me, and one for my buddies who all consider themselves too tough for insulation, but cry about cold fingers half way through the ascent. They are very light and comfortable. The only drawback is that they wet-out quickly. I do not like waterproof gloves unless condition are extreme, as the liners tend to make my hands sweat. If there was a better balance between the materials ability to breathe, wick internal moisture, and retain some water resistance against brief contact with snow, that would be ideal. The quality is excellent, but a few washes in you will start to notice wear. I used one pair snowmobiling and they were trashed.