I know jeans are different for everyone but these are THE best I've ever owned. I'm 5'6 @135lb athletic and the 4 fits like a glove. They're beautiful. They're built tough and I've repeatedly taken them to task at the animal shelter kneeling in all kinds of stuff, sweating, and schlepping awkward dirty heavy stuff all day. They dry quickly and don't fall down or thin or rip. The dark color and crisp fit also looks super polished and they make great dressy office jeans. They're insanely perfect: functional and look great. Value here is unreal < 3. Fit on me is midrise, no gap at waist but not tight either, comfortably snug in thigh, fall just below ankle and between bootcut and straight leg.